Thumbs Up: Cooper Square Hotel Revealed!

1.

i am first

2.

The street wall of this building is already looking very intense and strange. It may turn out to be a nice building, but it looks odd inbetween these two tenements - and I'm usually a fan of non-contextual architecture.

Oh, and #1, on behalf of all Curbed.com readers, congrats on your enormous success.

3.

Hettie Cohen aka Hettie Jones was born in Brooklyn. SO TEAR DOWN THAT OLD TENEMENT IT HAS NO HISTORICAL VALUE.

4.

I think it looks great. So sad to lose an undefined tenement (sarcasm, obviously).

5.

I love the old tenements. I love the historical value of them and yes, their humbleness. I truly think they are beautiful. Too bad all the losers infiltrating Manhattan these days DON'T GET IT AT ALL.

6.

My sister is living in an apt next door to this thing, it's fascinating watching the view from the window slowly go away as more floors get added to this thing. I'm not even sure if they're done with the floors or if it still needs more?

Incidently the tenants aren't too happy about it.

7.

The tenement is undefined but for the fact that Amiri Baraka, Archie Shepp, and Marzette Watts - two hugely important and one significant contributors to civil rights/arts of the 60's - lived there simultaneously.
In terms of preservation, sometimes what happened inside a building should be considered as important as the building itself.

8.

I am told (but have not seen, I swear!) there is a porno called "Edward Penishands" - perhaps the poster shown above was originally used to market that film?

9.

tenements are death traps. an old icon from the last century.

10.

Why are New Yorkers stuck in the 1800s?

11.

#6, it's getting a lot taller. by my count this is floor 6 of 23. this thing will be as tall as the green monster at astor place, and with any luck a whole lot better. cross your fingers that peck moss doesn't cheap out like their neighbors did and get a crappy curtain wall.

12.

Because we can only afford to live in buildings from the 1800s, unlike you red-state brokers.

13.

Maybe NNYer should start a trailer park on a pier/barge? That would help with the affordable housing problem.

14.

zapata is great. all the haters need to choke on a dick, and leanr to look to the future.

15.

zapata is great. all the haters need to choke on a dick, and learn to look to the future.

16.

10 / eight -- "Stuck in the 1800s" is meaningless. The tenements were built in the 1900s.

What is it that architecture from the 1800s and 1900s have in common and that New Yorkers like? The fact that they are urban buildings that put making the city and the streetscape above making an ego stroke for the architect and making money for the developer at the expense of the public realm and the common good.

Tenements were cheap, lousy buildings, but they were better for the making of the street than this crap.

Flaneur -- you take your name from Walter Benjamin's essay about strolling the streets. No one will want to stroll on this part of Cooper Square after Zapata, Gwathmey and Mayne get through with it.

People stroll the streets when it's pleasant to do so. In Houston, people get in their cars because the streets suck. So why should we let Zapata and his developer turn New York into Houston on the Hudson?

17.

Such a fantastic location for a hotel! (NOT!) These people must be looking toward the year 2500 to turn a profit here. When everything in Manhattan will be 25+ stories and serving only the rich.

18.

Many of those tenements downtown were built around the civil war era. Asshole #16, snobby know-it-all blowhard.

19.

#18
They were not built around the 1860s, but in the 1880s at the earliest.

Are all real estate agents and developers and their schills as ignorant as you?

Anyone who thinks this gargantuan building is appropriate in this site lacks a sense of proportion.

That is why they work in R.E.

20.

There is mos def an Edward Penishands porn. I worked in a video shop that had a very extensive collection of porn in the backroom - this was my favorite title. I didn't watch it either.

21.

hey #16, you dont know what the fuck youre talking about guy. a building from zapata or mayne, or gwathmey, or any other contemporary arhcitect, is not going to change a thing about new york. you remeber when the flatiron building, the eiffel tower, and countless others were feared because of how engaging they were to the context? of course you dont, cause you dont really know history, you just sit there and whine about the good ole days, without noticing the MODERN HISTORY in front of your fat face.

22.

the Zapata design will deliver in spades I am sure of that.....this hotel will be a great addition to the neighborhood and will likely provide some great surprises based on what is already going up;

With the new Sanaa designed New Museum down the way, and the Morphosis/Mayne building just north, these three new buildings will demonstrate how thoughtfully designed new buildings from visionary architects can co-exist with their surroundings to create exciting ( and varied ) architectural statements while also providing useful and functional spaces to the disparate users, whether museum goers, engineering students or visitors to the hotel. These buildings will certainly make their mark in their different ways, and will guide the continued transformation of the Bowery which until recently nobody gave a shit about....

23.

I wonder how many of you who are not in real estate will be able to afford to stay in this monstrous addition to our beloved and historic low-rise community. And I wonder how many of you who ARE in real estate will have any desire to stay in this community. The Green Monster was only the beginning. The neighborhood is getting raped and nobody's doing anything about it.