Old South Slope Salvation Army Store Gets Juicy and Green

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And what about energy efficiency? I'm sorry, you can install all the low voc-this and bamboo-that your little hear desires, but unless you reduce the building's energy load, don't dare call it green.

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why would you even assume that it's not energy efficient since you obviously don't know a thing about the place?

typical ignorant curbed comment.

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I don't think it's an ignorant comment at all.
If they had real green design they would be seeking
LEED certification, and playing that up for all it's worth. Without that, it seems a little like a marketing ploy.

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#2, I have no idea whether the building is energy efficient or not, but that's kind of the point. the developers brag about colorful succulents! On the roof! Woohoo! without a single word on energy usage. Hey, maybe the building is zero energy, for all I know, but it is not a good sign when they brag about being green because they have cactii on the roof and not a word about energy.

So, #2, you the developer? The real estate agent? You seem a bit too defensive.

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building is sold out.

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This is very nice

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the succulents comment was made regarding the green ROOF for those that are lacking in functional reading skills.

if you are interested in the energy efficiency, how about you call them, ask and post here for us all.

otherwise your uninformed comments are just useless bantor and nothing more.

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"don't dare call it green."

and don't DARE suggest that it might not be unless you have the facts.

sounds like a really sad person who would write such a thing. not to mention an ignorant one.

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"the succulents comment was made regarding the green ROOF for those that are lacking in functional reading skills."

It also describes itself as a "green condo", so the point still applies.

And as far as I can tell, #5, it is NOT sold out. But I don't pretend to have any inside info on that.

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Yeah, well, if you look at their website, the elements that they are including, while good, are pretty superficial. Green roofs are nice but vastly overrated (counters heat island effect? So does a high albedo roof). Not exactly pressing the envelope here.

But I'm the ignorant one here, of course. Come back when you can tell me the role of compartmentalization, the stack affect, and properly sized HVAC systems.

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Correction: stack Effect

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Bonus points for anyone who knows what a blower door test is.

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i think it looks terrific.

if it's not sold out, i'd love to take a look.

this is in a fantastic location if you like brooklyn livin.

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STATS
· Stainless Steel Energy Star Appliances
· Bamboo Wood Floors
· Energy Star Tankless Natural Gas Water Heater
· Extensive Sealing of House Envelope and Spray Foam Insulation
· 200 Watts Compact Florescent Lights
· Programmable Thermostats
· Motion Sensor and Evening Activating Light Sensors
· Light Colored Roof Shingles Keep House Cooler in Summer
· High-Efficiency Toilet Bowls
· All Organic Lawn Care Chemicals
· Low Maintenance Plants
· Water Saving Irrigation System

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A green roof provides a greater reduction in surface temperatures than simply painting a roof white. Even so, reduced albedo is not the only, nor even the primary, benefit of green roofs. Other benefits include:
- Reduced surface runoff and improved water quality of overflow water
- Insulation
- Improved air quality
- Habitat value, primarily nectar sources

Primary disadvantages of green roofs are:
- Greater initial cost
- Need for additional infrastructure, such as plumbing to water the roof during dry periods

Succulents are the plant type of choice for green roofs. They are low-maintenance, drought-resistant, and have fibrous root systems. They are insect- rather than wind-pollinated, so they do not contribute to airborne allergens. That they may be "colorful" is of interest only to the butterflies, bees and other insects visiting them, unless there's also a deck on the roof for humans to enjoy them as well.

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it's sold out. just called.

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If it's sold out, this site is out of date:

http://ahbrooklyn.com/property.php?id=19&type=development&displaytype=development

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Yes on most of the benefits noted for green roofs, though it should be pointed out that your first point Xris, and the only one the developers mention, the heat island affect, can be accomplished just as well with a high albedo roof with high emissivity.

That said, I do love the energy efficiency measures that #14 mentions. How come this stuff never makes it to the front of the marketing materials? OK, I know why. It's not seen as sexy, but it should be. Extensive Sealing of the building enevelope? Programable thermostats? Motion Sensor lights? THIS is what we need to see more of people.

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really good bars, restaurants and shops in the immediate vicinity of this place also.

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That's what I love about curbed -- if someone's trying to do something to help the environment in some way, you can dump all over it if you can find one thing that they aren't doing. As if that negates the whole idea of trying to make some effort.

Meanwhile, if you're one of the many curbed commenters who does nothing but gripe all day online, doesn't volunteer, doesn't show any support for anyone, you've got integrity I guess.

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I love the way the building glows. Can't beat those Brooklyn red orange sunsets. A baby gap store would kill in this location.

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Has the retail space been rented?

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Why did the developers choose eco-spec paint! That stuff is horrible! They should have gone with this stuff called Harmony from Sherwin Williams. That is what all the actual green buildings in NYC are using. oh the Hurst building used it.