Yet Another New Development for LIC: Crescent Club

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I'm the first, and i love LIC!

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41st ave and crescent street is a amdhouse of traffic

and only 3 blocks from queesbridge

keep on building

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2 comments and no mention of Arris so far? All of the haters must have left early for the holiday

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This is the 3rd of many new developments to take place on Queens Plaza North, directly across the street is Ciampa Tower, a 41 story rental building currently under construction, and down the block is another 40 somewhat story building coming into play, add this with View 59, The Queens Plaza, The Marriot Hotel and the Gaseteria site, and Queens Plaza is gonnah get a huge facelift within the next 12-24 months...

www.longislandcitynyc.com

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I'm bought a unit in view59....now I'm a little jealous that this development is going to have pool. I guess I need to make some friends over there!!

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it seems every other dev. has a pool. what's next bowling alleys?

how about a dev. with a city view or direct waterfront access? now those are pluses, not pools that will only be open when its nice out.

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The Kitchen renderings of all these new condos show open kitchens. The building code requires a min. 12" drop arch or soffit around the kitchen. Does anyone know how these projects are allowed to get away with this?

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You mean you think this building is a piece of Queens Crap?

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its good that they make buildings that have the view of this bridge which is really one of the best, especially at nite. too bad the neighborhood is sooooo SCRUUCHY! thet should reroute the rikers island loser drop off bus to the bronx and give this area a chance!

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Wait, people actually live in this 'hood?

Why would you want to live here... it looks so ugly, and there is no grocery stores, or dry cleaning or pharmacies...

At least 11211 has a night life scene, this place looks sooooo ugly and boring.

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Who cares? Let's hear more about the hotels in the area.

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Well as for the Hotels, there will be a Marriot Hotel in Queens Plaza, The Clarion just opened uP, Theres a boutique hotel called the Z Hotel and another boutique hotel called the Ravel Hotel, then aside from that there is the hybrid, Condo-Hotel also opening up in Queens Plaza North, outerb.com just did a story on that one... Plus Sam Chang and his infamous McSam Hotel Group will be opening up a bunch more... all in all approximately 3000 hotel rooms will be opening up in the next 2-5 years in LIC...

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LIC is a very up and coming neighborhood.

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Are 3000+ more tourists a year expected to visit?

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This building looks very nice. The renderings on the website are beautiful. I'm glad to see that quality luxury buildings are going up in areas like this in LIC, and not just on the waterfront. Hopefully this is one of the first steps in the makeover of the Queens Plaza area. It makes me feel confident that the transformation of the entire neighborhood will be spectacular.

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"how about a dev. with a city view or direct waterfront access?" Come now, this one has a view of the Citicorp tower. What more do you want?

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There is a standing joke in the community about these buildings, no parking, tiny kitchen made of the cheapest quality, in a neighborhood that is dirty, noisy and perhaps one of the most dangerous at night in the entire boro of Queens.

Little doubt that these are great places to park a girlfriend (with orders not to venture out of doors) or a great dormatory for all kinds of things.

The local civic really got a hosing when the politicians took advantage of their open naivete. It was the only one in the entire boro that voted for massive zoning increase - in a community that over the years lost a firehouse and hospital. The Astoria power grid was fried last summer.

Not a good thing.

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Pardon but if the average household income is 44,000 and it takes 2 wage earners to keep the average household, does that not make the average wage 22,000 a year yet none of the govt numbers agree, yet these are govt numbers, anyway at 22,000 a year I would not ne thinking of even being able to afford the maintence costs of these N.Y plaCES.....THE LARGEST CITY AVERAGES INTO THE AVERAGES..........

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and but for being one of the last places I would want to live, at those income figures and the former standard lending practices the average unit there should sell for 56,000, not the 500,000 or more in loans the bank has approved for each unit and sold an insured repayment of, by the taxpayers, smells like big troubles to me...............

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or 25 dollar loafs of bread.......

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That's right, #15. If you clap hard enough, Tinkerbell won't die.

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#21: I soooo agree Captain!

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The greatest part is the music on the official site. Definitely from an 80's sitcom.

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This has to be a joke. Does anyone really want to live out there, let alone spend a lot of money for something with little or no potential future value. Suckers born everyday.

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23 with the call of the year. You can just envision "Starring Alan Thicke...Ricky Schroeder...and Don Knotts as Mr. Ferbles" and him doing something zany over this music.

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It is actually the theme music from the "Jerry" show

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Hey, it's a Karl Fischer project. So I like it.

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It does not matter what you think of the area now. NYEDC has appropriated a good amount of cash (50mm) for infrastructure enhancements in gentrifying the area.(the waterfront properties were that that nice just 10yrs ago...) Queens plaza is is a lot more risky investment than the waterfront properties, however presents a greater return on investment. If you are able to secure a 2br unit for nothing more than high 600’s and ride out all the delayed construction and parks for 5-10 yrs, I think you will do more than fine. What you should not do is buy at fusion. They are selling there units at 2010-2011 prices in 2007!!! Amazing!

See you at the winners circle

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Now seeing this, how could you possibly buy at Arris. Arris is such an over-priced piece of garbage.

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I agree, Arris sucks. So many better deloments in the hood!

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30, nice spelling! Arris sucks, gantry sucks, Fusion sucks. Move to Citylights, the best in the area.

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Great! Another development that'll be half built in 2009. And I thought they'd built as close to Scandals as you could get! I'm petitioning the zoning board to build a development ON TOP of Scandals and City Lights. Man, even the streetwalkers have caught on that the locals like overpaying for shit - charging $100 for a handy? Jesus.

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And yet another skyscraper collection of condos that no long-time resident of LIC can afford to live in. Bring in the Manhattanites...

www.forgotten-ny.com

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eric b is for broker - how are you getting to 41 stories on ciampa? permit says 15.

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Kevin,

Anytime an area becomes more desirable (which is a good thing) it will raise the cost to live in that area. If that were a reason to stop development we would have nothing new ever built in this city. That might make you happy but it would be terrible to see the city deteriorate in that way.

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The song on the official site is from the old "Late Night with David Letterman" on NBC... oh wait... or is it "Saturday Night Live?"

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Hey yeah my bad, i was looking at this permit for this other project on Orchard Street... sorry... i realized it when i went back to see the records...

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28 - Queens Plaza is a riskier investment than the waterfront? Are you joking? QP is definitely the worse area in LIC TODAY but is only going to improve. In the case of the waterfront in front of the luxury condos some idiot is going to buy at the Powerhouse for over a $1,000 per sqft is going to be 5,000 to 10,000 city housing project apartments blocking his view. To his North are the Avalon old age home, non luxury buildings like Citilights and the Gantry (you know the ugly building with pieces of it falling off that stares at Citilights garage) and thousands of recent college graduates having frat parties in the Rockrose and Avalan rental buildings. This place is going to go down fast over the next several years whereas the QP area sells now at a considerable discount and is going to improve dramatically over the next few years once the strip clubs leave (although the strippers may end up living in the projects in front of the powerhouse and the Avalon old age home when the get older).

I love LIC but the waterfront area is a mess waiting to happen. You are much better off looking at other areas.

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The city has no plans to put housing projects on the LIC waterfront. The plan is to offer tax breaks for private developers to build housing a portion of which would be available to middle income residents, with income levels up to $145,000. Both Queens Plaza and the waterfront should be good investments.

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39, you are living in a fantasy world. The waterfront is going down fast and the "middle income" projects will become Projects soon enough. Parties inEastCoast and Avalon will draw more college and grad students. Cash out now while you have the chance. Look what happened at Arris, they bought pre-construction and now everyone hates the building, they wont get their money back when they sell, and they have to deal with prostitutes at night.

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#33 isa long time LIC resident living in a broken down house without a nickel in your pocket. Face it, us condo buying investors have taken over LIC and we are pushing you out! Out with the old and in with the new

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Hey in regards of the middle income housing, well no its not infront of Powerhouse its actually to the south of it, a few blocks south actually. If y ou know the Watertaxi Beach, south of the parking lot is a huge lot with several piles of dirt, that is the site of the Middle income housing, where the city plans to develop into 5000 units, with about 40% at market rate which means only 3000 middle income housing.. And thats middle income not low income, so anyone earning anywhere from $60k to $140k will be eligible, and there target demographic are teachers, police and fdny, whats wrong with that. The cranes actually recently arrived, i did a story on it on my blog a couple of days ago www.longislandcitynyc.com

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It wont bring teachers, NYPD, etc. It will bring in more trash! Eric, quit plugging your website!

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the middle income housing is not a few blocks south. it's right in front of the Powerhouse, extending south to where the old Bud plant will be.

jeez, you know nothing about this neighborhood. one good thing about this mortgage crisis will be that you johnny come lately brokers will go the way of the dot com'mers.

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Your wrong its right next to the water taxi beach, i have met with local politicians and city officials about this... check your facts, the site right in front of Powerhouse is owned by the parks department. and just an FYI ive been coming to the neighborhood for 11 years now, and have been conducting real estate transactions in the area for about 5 years now...

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40, You seem very knowledgeable about the area. Where did you buy?

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40 - I'm sorry but middle income housing is not the projects...there is a HUGE difference, are you trying to tell me you think stuyvesant town is anythink like the projects???? A couple making a gross of 120K is not poor.

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You sure, Eric? According to the City Map, "NIXBOT REALTY ASSOC" owns the parcel in front of the Powerhouse. Enter "51-24 2 STREET"

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#46, the answer to your question is J-Condo, Brooklyn.

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erik,

you're W-R-O-N-G about the middle income housing...i don't give a fuck who you 'talked to'...look at every map of the area you dumb fuck!!!

Jesus fucking christ...DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH you DUMB fuck.

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50 needs to go to anger management.

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40, Aaah the J condo in Dumbo... That would explain your prejudice towards Arris.

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50 needs a great big hug.

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#10 is so right. why buy in LIC/Queens Plaza when williamsburg has amazing shops, excellent restaurants and fantastic nightlife?? guess for proximity to midtown, but jeez... you can get anywhere fast from billyburg anyway. there are going to be great deals in williamsburg with the mkt cooling. and, there are also views too.

not a queens hater at all, just sayin

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54 - Let's think about a few reasons:

- Public transport - Billyburg sucks unless you work downtown

- I don't have any tatoos

- I don't have a beard

- I don't have any nose rings

- I don't smoke pot all day

- I have a job

- I don't like the smell of garbage lining the streets

_ I can get a better apartment in LIC for less money psqft

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47 - Stuy town is about as close as you can get to projects to me.

I love LIC but for those looking to buy, I'd stay away from the waterfront area.

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40 or CSK should I say. You made a smart move leaving citilights before the projects arrived but a dumb move in purchasing in J-Condo.

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yeah buying waterfront property is always a bad idea. they'll just keep making more waterfront. buy inland, they can never make more stuff inland.

idiots.

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Yeah, and Arris sucks too. Who wants 16' ceilings and 10' windows and all those amenities when you can buy cookie cutter new construction with 9' ceilings and a part time doorman? I hate Arris and I wish all the Arrisholes would just move to DUMBO!!

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59 obviously regrets his purchase at Arris. Its ok, we all make mistakes.

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It's so true. Buying at Arris really was the biggest mistake of my life.... And it's NOT ok... OK? I'm just SO full of regret. I mean I just HATE the fact that I'm going to have an indoor lap pool, full sized gym, 24 hour doorman, cold storage, 2 private terraces, a private balcony, 16ft. ceilings, HUGE windows, parking in the building... need I go on? It's insufferable I tell you!! Regret is an understatement.... I HATE ARRIS!!!!!!!!

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#55: but do you own a skateboard, wear cool hats or skinny jeans, have glasses with thick plastic frames, or sport Chuck Taylors?

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61, you forgot to mention prostitutes right outside! Also, dont forget the nice sound of the train tracks. Face it Newbie, you are really not part of the LIC community living in that piece of shit Arris.

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63, so right again. I won't even be able to hear the nice sound of the train tracks because the windows in my piece of shit Arris unit are soundproof GODDAMMIT!! Not just the prostitutes either, what about all the rikers island convicts crawling around the building, and let's not forget all the drug addled pill pushing teenagers at that den of inequity, PS1... I tell ya, THANK GOD Arris is not a part of the LIC community, they should just raze that whole area and free the real LIC from this stain on the community.

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Newbie, in case you dont know, residents in Arris are complaining about the train noise. In fact, there is a whole thread on Queenswest. Nice try sucker!

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Arris is in the middle of nowhere. Dont buy there. It sucks!

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Hey 65, speaking of suckers you should hear the sound all the Arris prostitutes make!! Anyone who buys or bought at Arris is a S-U-C-K-E-R plain and simple. And now they have that dreadful train noise to contend with too?? I mean, of all places, noise in NYC??? Oy Vey!

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65, speaking of suckers you should hear the sounds all the Arris prostitutes make! Yup, anyone who bought or buys at Arris is a S-U-C-K-E-R plain and simple.... And now they have that dreadful train noise to contend with too?? I mean of all places, noise in NYC?? Oy Vey!

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Most NYC train noise is at least muffled a little because it is UNDERGROUND not in your backyard! Newbie, soory about your purchase.

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Arris sucks! Newbie got suckered and now is crying like a little bitch! All of the great buildings in LIC down by Vernon, and Newbie bought in desolate Arris, what an idiot.

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Actually the area where Arris is not desolate, on Purves street, there are currently plans for new buildings, including the one that is going up now 2626 jackson, the parking lot at the foot of Jackson will start going down by the end of the year. plus there are plans for over 1200 new apartments to go up around the courtsquare area. And in January when the city begins work on the Jackson Avenue rejuvination plan, to add deviders, plant trees and place sculptures throughout Jackson, everyone will see that Arris buyers were smart...

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71, yet another Arris sucker who is trying to defend his investment.

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lets see who is the sucker, when all you guys at Hunters Point, try to commute when the seven is constantly in disrepair, luckily us Arris owners have the E & V train aside from the 7 and we have the G train...

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71 is broker who sells many different developments in LIC. Sounds like 70 and 72 are kicking themselves for not having gotten in at Arris while they could afford the available units there.

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o yeah, the "g" train! that's a big plus!

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LIC buyers are so defensive of their purchases. if you were confident, you wouldn't have to say anything. so far we learned that arris sucks, qp sucks and the waterfront sucks. hmmm... ok, all of LIC sucks!

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a strike for arrishole construction workers?

http://www.queenswest.com/neighborhood/discussion/00020828

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Here is a perspective view on Arris posted a few days ago. Seems like the Arris folks forgot:

"I bought at Arris and people are right - it was a huge mistake. The train noise is definately noticable. They blow the horns every time they enter the tunnel. It is driving me crazy. I'm up every morning at 4am. My unit was a mess when I did my inspection and it still is now. No progress has been made since move in. Very shoddy construction - cracked tiles, uneven coutertops, gaps in floorboards, faucets missing seals, etc., etc. Construction workers are in and out of my unit to fix things, but but although some jewlery is not missing nothing seems to get fixed. I've taken quite a few days off from work to deals with this. Walls are paper thin. I feel like if I lean too much against it I will fall into my neighbors unit. I hear everything my neighbor says and he seems to be into rock music which I am not. The hallway walls are a psycaldelic organge color which was not diclosed by the broker. It looks like someone threw up or a kids playroom in the hallsway.

I would put my unit on the market, but I would probably lose my shirt. First all the construction delays pushed my closing back until the middle of the subprime meltdown. The appraiser at first bank I was going to use appraised the unit below what I paid for it. Fortunately I was also dealing with another bank whose appraiser came up with my purchase price, or I would have lost my deposit. I've got a jumbo loan so my int rate shot up 2 points from what I was planning since I did not have a lock. That's really squeezing me hard. I'm living hand to mouth now. The maintaince reduction for the lack of amenities helps, but it will be tight once the full amount kicks in.

The area is lonely. I was warned before i bought, but i ignored the advice. Its probably safe, but at nights I'm constantly looking over my shoulder and anticipating someone jumping out from the shadows. I miss having my manhattan friends pop in. Despite all the nearby subways no one wants to come to Queens. There no place to shop or pick something up on the way home. I thought Fresh Direct would bridge the gap, but I was mistaken about how much impluse buys I make.

Guess I'm stuck here for the short term. Stay far away! Consider yourself warned. Undoudbtably some will consider this an exageration, but if you live here come knock on my door and I'll show you myself. I'm not afraid to admit I made a mistake here. Just hoping to ride it our sell and move to a more established local. To the Arris lovers out there I have not shared your experience, but the people have been nice overall. No amount of amenites makes up for the pit in my stomach when I come home at night."

Reality check Newbie, quit kidding yourself!

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the labor dispute that may cost the residents more than they expect in maint charges, not to mention an ever existing construction zone. still don't think it was a mistake?

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re: 78...OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF!

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#55 funny and all, but are you kidding? i stood the other day on the platform at 9:52 am at the bedford L stop and exited grand central station at 10:00am. i usually don't go to midtown, but my experience is that i can get anywhere fast.

really, the hipster thing is not all there is. the burg is being bought up by 30 something couples or smart 20 somethings who are getting 2 bedrooms and renting the extra to a roommate for income/investment.

trust, have a job. most people do. very few can live in NY and not work. those people are women married to investment bankers, and they do not live in williamsburg.

and, if you don't think that having access to tons of great restaurants, shopping, and transportation matters, then what the f?

oh yeah, and what about having a huge park that just got 50 MILLION dollars???

in any case, do hope that anyone who makes an investment in LIC does ok and doesn't hate it. this is just my point of view given that the 2 neighborhoods both have condos at similar price points.

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Lol - I see that Monte, CSK and all the other haters are alive and well as is their jeaolusy for people that bought in Arris. Get a life guys.

And as for making things up, such as 79, people currently living in Arris aren't paying maintenance charges so it hasn't cost them a dime. I also crack up at people posting from an apartment number that doesn't face the tracks indicating that they hear the train all day, and that anyone, I repeat anyone has seen a prostitute in the area.

Guys you are pathetic. Spending 24/7 on the internet fabricating things about an apartment building? You guys are losers.

As the addage goes if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all. In your case it appears all you really see is that Arris is a great building and an amazing investment and you wish that you lived there yourself. However, given your jealous insecurity you see the need to spend all of your time making things up because you think that will make you feel better.

If you have an issue go see a shrink or better yet sell the place that you currently live.

You are jealous and for some crazy reaon

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82, nervous about your investment? We can hear the regret in your post!

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82 - Does this really surprise you? Arris is without a doubt heads and shoulders above other developments in LIC.

Of course people in 2nd tier, or even worse 3rd tier buildings like the Gantry or Citilights are going to be jealous. Worse yet there are people like CSK who bubble sat for a year and a half watching prices go up before overpaying above and beyonf what most paid at Arris to live at J-Condo, which most would argue is a big step down from LIC.

Granted its childish/boarderline comical that these folks spend their lives on a site creating false rumors about an apartment building. But do you really believe that anyone who has seen Arris and what an amazing building buys into this shit?

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84, I can honestly say everyone that I talk to in LIC thinks Arris is overpriced and a very bad investment. Granted some of these posts are over the top, but Arris was a pre-construction marketing ploy that ended up being a bad investment. Sorry.

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82 - you will pay for it in the long term. someone will have to pay for it and it won't be the developers.

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actually Arris isnt overpriced, on a per sqft basis its actually one of the cheapest priced buildings in the area, on an absolute price basis i can see how people would think it is overpriced, but paying $1 million for a 1500sqft loft with 14/16 foot ceilings is pretty good in the grand scheme of things. But again per sqft its priced between 625-750 a foot which is either lower or comparable to whats around. The only thing is that each unit is huge and have big layouts so the absolute price is expensive, so you can look at it in two different ways. 5SL is over $1000sqft and there not even lofts even though there marketing them as lofts, but 8-9foot ceilings arent lofts to me...

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I actually considered a purchase in this building. Renderings are really nice and I saw a few great floorplans. Then I went to check out the hood. OH MY GOD. I wouldn't live there for free let alone commit to a purchase of almost $800K for a nice sized two bedroom. I know the area will improve but it reminded me of the Port Authority building twenty years ago. That has to be the worst subway station I have ever seen, and love the sex club right behind it to say nothing about all the goverment housing right there.

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What gov't housing? If you mean the Queensbridge projects, they're nowhere near Arris.

And what sex club behind Arris? There aren't any.

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88, I agree, that area around Arris sucks. If you move to LIC, stay near Vernon or the waterfront. Hookers hang out near Arris.

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87 - Be careful. When the haters realize that not only Arris is a far better building than the cookie cutter crap that they regret purchasing in but that it actually cost less than what they paid in terms of $ per square foot they are going to lose it. Here we go with anohter hundred Arris threads. No wonder that it is the only building that people want to talk about.

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91, it is talked about so much because people are still laughing at you when you try to defend such a bad investment. Arris is the joke of LIC!

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#88 here. I wasn't talking about Arris. I was writing about Crescent Club, which after all was the thread in the start. I prefer the Arris location to Queensboro Plaza. Guess I will stay in Manhattan and see if I can trade up here if prices come down. If the market goes through a major correction, Queens and Brooklyn will be coming down first in my humble opionion.

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90 - Correction. Hookers are lining up to live in the projects to be constructed nearby Citilights and the Gantry. Funny thing is that they'll get better constuction and/or views than either of those buildings at the projects as well.

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92 - Monte, CSK - actually the biggest joke in LIC is the two of you (along with the buildings that you purchased in).

Arris is the best building in LIC by a long shot. By a long shot. You know it. Queenswest know it and people on Curbed know it.

Get over it.

96.

here's the NY Times article saying that the southern part of queenswest, the affordable housing component, is directly in front of the Powerhouse all the way down to Newtown Creek. they combined parcels 3 and 4.

fyi, it's from an older article so you have to register to read it.

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96 - Affordable housing - what's that - what people in citilights, avalon, and the gantry call the projects? If they don't have enough crime already in Gantry state Park wait until the projects get built. I'm lucky I got out to what I did and moved to J-Condo, even though I paid through the roof to do it and now live next to a bridge with traffic going by all day.

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#97 hi regency you dumbass.

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Really Monte its me.

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A bridge at J condo is better than a prostitute at Arris.

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100 - Maybe true except there are no prostitutes at Arris, while there most definitely is a bridge at J-Condo and pieces of concrete falling off of the Gantry. So where does that leave you fellas - spending your time whining about Arris 24/7 on the internet. I feel for you.

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101 = buyers remorse.

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#101 hi regency dumbass

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how's that Arris strike coming along?

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104 - Great. As long as the building isn't finished, I'm not getting charged maintenance fees.

How is the traffic on the bridge next door to J-Condo and the concrete falling off of the Gantry. Are your toilet's still overflowing?

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sleep well? it was quiet last night and i was up late reading. i faintly heard the horns from the waterfront at 3 am. it must have been pretty loud where arris is located.

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Arris sucks

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106 - Actually that noise wasn't a horn it was another chunk of concrete falling off of the Gantry.

You should stop obsessing about Arris. You'd still live in a shitty apartment but at least you'd sleep better.

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108, Get a life man! Face it, some people think Arris is crappy. You can lump us all together all you want. You made a bad investment on a knee jerk reaction and now have to watch all these new sweet developments going up in better locations. Asshole!

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honk-honk!

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You guys are right about Arris. I moved in last month and have awakened every night to the safety horns of the LIRR. I have my windows closed, though I do not hear the trains moving into the tunnel, the blaring horns knock me off of my bed. I have since been going to therapy and my shrink has recommended that I move closer to the waterfront where it's quiet and serene.

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First and foremost the tunnel is nowhere near arris. Second, I can't believe the same 3,4 people are still talking about arris. You should all seriously get help. Bashing the building on a sunday and even on labor day is straight up on some Calvin Klein OBSESSION. This post was about the Crescent club, and ofcourse it turns into an arris love fest. C'mon let it go. Arris Lofts is beautiful you can't deny that. There are no prostitutes, the area is quiet at night, but not for much longer. There is no strike. The union people got locked out, due to delaying the progress of the building and sabotage. I don't get why people are so bitter. But I guess I would be too if I could'nt afford to live there. Live and let live. LIC is a great place to dwell, nuff said!! Btw a building with a doorman and concierge, fresh direct freezer, pool, sauna, 1 block from train station. You are only fooling yourself. Location,location,location......your a fool if u think otherwise.

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I am referring to the tunnel that the LIRR goes into. Which unit are you in if you don't hear it. Someone says he can hear it from the waterfront.

I am courtyard view and I hate it.

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Well said Regency. Though this looks more like the work of a single troll. My bet it is one of the clowns that you owned over on queenswest. THey know who they are and so does everyone else. I agree with you though that it is pathetic the amount of time these people have on their hands. And at the end of the day they are absolutely they jealous, but then again so would we be if we lived where they did and had to look at Arris.

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111 - This has been beaten to the ground already can we move on???....

Anyway, back to the orginal thread. Bab's Daughter, the units at cresent club are in the $800's?? I thought the two bedrooms were advertised starting at $530k? I would not pay more than 650 a sqft for that area.

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115 - you make arris sound cheap.

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116 - On a $ psqft basis absolutely. Those that bought at Arris got an absolute steal considering the prices of developments that have hit the market at higher prices per sqft and the quality of construction.

That being said all that is left at Arris at this point are a handful of $1 million + apartments.

Reports the other day are that the Powerhouse will be going for $800 psqft. I'd rather purchase there than QP even though you are looking at small apartments (a 3 bed room apartment has little more sqft (1,500) than a studio at Arris and low ceilings 8-9ft) and you have the likelyhood of city projects being constucted right in front that will block the view.

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I laugh at you Arris people. You can lie all you want, anyone can go down there at night and see the hookers. Enjoy the train noise!!!
Arris = joke of LIC!

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117, its not a steal at Arris because they will not be able to sell it. Their cheap ass apt's will sit just like the 1 million ones are now.

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119 Considering that all of the less expensive apartments were sold months ago at Arris your post makes a lot of sense dumbass.

As for your post on 118, on the last thread someone already clarified that hookers haven't been around Arris for years. The used condoms hanging around Gantry State Park, however, suggests that they've been in your neck of the woods.

Again Trolls who live in glass houses (or shitbox apartments in your case) shouldn't throw stones particularly when they have to fabricate things about someone else's home but have real issues with prostitutes and shitty construction and other issues where they live.

Are you sure that you want to continue?

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120 Sounds like #120 has something to prove. That usually says something in itself. Lets face it, Arris is getting a lot of shit. Why move into Arris with all these issues? My opinion is that both sides of this argument show how pathetic all parties involved are.

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121 - You sound completely unbiased yourself -lol.

Add your name to the pathetic crowd. It cracks me up how you clowns living in places like Citilights start all this shit about newer developments, call people pathetic when the people that have purchased in them respond, and then you yourselves are so sensitive when someone points out the facts of the circumstances.

Why don't you set an example?

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Citylights?? Who wants to live in a building that has popcorn cealing? I don't.

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#115-The layout I liked was over 1200 sq. ft. and the price was over $750K. I got very excited until I visited the area. I felt much safer around Arris but I thought it was overpriced when I saw it. When it first went on the market Arris was a good deal although it doesn't sound like folks are that happy there. All my friends were horrified that I was considering moving to Queens after owning in Manhattan for twenty years. I don't really understand all the hate. I remember when we looked down our noses at anyone who dared to live in Brooklyn.

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I like my popcorn ceiling.

Jake

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Looking into the Crescent Club. Price seems reasonable. Walked the area at night to see if the subway can be heard from the site. Heard nothing.

Hey - I may buy....wake up every morning at 8:25 be at work in midtown at 9. That's cool.

How much is an extra hour of sleep every night for the next 20 years worth.......

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Also,Checkout the development plans for LIC at http://www.nycedc.com

Search Long Island City Vision

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Also,Checkout the development plans for LIC at http://www.nycedc.com

Search Long Island City Vision

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I looked at buying in Arris last year so went to an open house. I dont now what it is but after i walked out of the building i had a bad feeling about it. when you went in, it had drawings of the courtyard etc and it looked great but when you actually looked at it everything was small. Ok the ceilings are high but some of the designs make the apartment look dumb due to the high ceilings. I am a contractor and for me the quality of construction is poor to say the least. That was a big turn off. If you are advertising as a luxury building then do it right.
Overall i thought Arris is a rip off, good marketing and people got suckered in to it.
Every time i drive by that building i think what a f****d place that is. Some people on this post say others are jealous, that is totally wrong. Arris is just a crappy building.