Bubblemania Returns to Long Island City

1.

I love LIC but these have to be the 2 worst buildings in the area. The locations are terrible. The prices can't be low enough.

2.

750sq ft for 450k to breathe in exhaust fumes

thanks but no thanks

3.

Just another reason why the Arris crowd bought too soon. Great building in a great location.

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After dealing with the brokers on several occasions, I could not have received worse service from them. They are slick greaseballs from Jersey. I would never do business with them ever and they should not be trusted.

5.

No hookers here and closer to Vernon. I'm glad I didnt buy at Arris.

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Another condo in the heart of LIC. Location Arris folks is the key.

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my the sheeple line up to be sheered by this "affordable" housing...maybe almost 5 times to high evalued

8.

This is a great addition to Citylights, Gantry and 5SL. The 4 best buildings in LIC!

9.

UGH!

I don't want THESE people in my hood!

10.

Just because people are lining up to see them doesn't translate as sales. These may be other agents or just people trying to get a better handle on the market.

I'm not seeing anywhere where there's a claim anyone actually put down money.

11.

What is wrong with people? Baffling.

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Actually - it was invitation only for people who were pre-qualified to buy. No brokers

13.

Another building that will show arris buyers that they made a big mistake.

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I wanted to bring a broker to represent me and the sales reps wouldn't allow it. The building looks pretty good but the locations are not great. However, the sales team ruined the experience for me and I will look elsewhere now.

15.

You should buy at Citylights instead. Better prices with a better view. Arris sucks!

16.

Citylights is a dump and the maitenance is way to high. The views may be great but the condos are old and I believe a bad investment. From what I've seen, 10-63 and 10-50 Jackson are ina good loacation and affordable. Arris was a beautiful building but a bit out of my price range. The warehouse side of the Badge Building is a great condo in a great location but they only have 1 unit available. 5SL is a bit overpriced and they are out of 1 Bedrooms.

17.

Citylights is the best bang for your buck in LIC. Arris is the worst investment in LIC.

18.

No I did NOT buy at Arris. I'm getting sick of all this Arris hating. Would you all please stop it already?! Anyone who can't keep their pie hole shut about insult Arris buyers should be sodomized with a pineapple!

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18, I agree, Arris sucks, we all know it, lets move on.

20.

I wonder what is worse, the smell at these condos or the hookers at Arris? Thats one tough question.

21.

Does anyone have any positive feedback of One Hunters Point? Some of the units seems somewhat high, @ $700+/sqft. However, the lower common charges makes it somewhat affordable. The location is questionable with the lirr station. The price of the unit + the lower common charges + location seems to be a decent option compared to the other condos.

22.

#21..You are right. It is a decent option. Call a broker for help on your decision and to hear about the other buildings in the area

23.

I think One Hunters Point is better then Hunter's view. If you check the LIRR schedule, there are very limited stops at Hunter's Point. However trains do idle there during the day before they begin the rush hour service. My friend was there when two trains were idling around 4ish...she said the noise was medium. We went to the sales office and they said the windows were soundproof (but who knows) I personally think that the noise should be bearable if the noise is medium standing outside.

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BTW, the friend that heard the trains still bought a unit in Hunters Point. It's a block from the 7 and walking distance to everything on Vernon and not even two blocks to the water.

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24, your right, location is everything. Thats what Arris has going against it. With the location of this condo, you will be right where you want to be in LIC.

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16 - Absolutely correct. That being said, you are not saying anything that anyone doesn't know. People living in citilights are having a tough time selling and believe me they are trying. Problem is that the apartments don't stack up and the maintenance costs are through the roof.

That being sai what else do the people who live there have to resort to but spending their time on the internet making shit up about other buildings? Its both played out and pretty pathetic.

27.

I think the vibration of the trains is worse. I won't go there until they let my broker take me. Kind of weird how they wont let brokers in.

28.

Arris is the best building in LIC hands down. The jealousy for it is unreal albeit it that a single retard is responsible for half of the posts on this thread and all of the anti-Arris posts. Anyone who reads QueensWest knows who this clown is and unfortunately the lousy building he bought in instead - lol.

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28 = Arris troll, he is back!!!

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#27 and #14-
regarding the broker thing, I think they are trying to save a couple bucks..hopefully that's the only way they are skimping..better not $ave on the $oundproofing!

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live like a hooker - commute like a sardin

32.

Re: The broker thing, whatever the reason they are doing it, and I have no idea, but you have to keep in mind two things:

1) It is up to the sponsor to decide whether or not they want to pay co-brokers. I think actually the sales office may encourage broker participation as it would help them to sell I'm sure, but they can do nothing until the sponsor allows them to.

2) The idea of a broker taking a client around is great, but someone has to pay that broker. Buyers may have a better chance of negotiating without a broker as if there is a savings in co-brokerage then I think the customer may have some leverage. But is sounds like the buildings are priced to move so....

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I heard from reliable sources that the people waiting were hired by the developer to create hype

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#33.
Not the worst idea, but I can tell you that a couple of my clients were in the line- I would have been with them, except, the brokers on the project won't allow brokers. Oh, you can bet I'm not happy about it. But, hey, ain't my Karma.

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Love the Arris HATER! Find it entertaining how maybe different ANNONS you use. Thanx for the free pluggs for Arris, what you dont know is that the building is shy of selling out.....Hate on HATER!

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29 - judging from the number of posts that you've made on this thread with your jealous obsession for Arris, the "Curbed Retard" has never left.

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bought somewhere else, but besides the kitchens, I think arris is the best looking building in lic...

38.

Bottom line, Arris is a bad investment. Buy near Vernon.

39.

these comments are generally insane

40.

If you live in Arris, do us all a favor and hang a right when you walk out of Arris. That is your hood, not LIC. We all think Arris is a joke and do not consider you part of LIC. All you Arris people do not bring anything to the LIC community. Suckers!

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How would everyone rank the current/future condos around the vernon-jackson area? Taking into consideration affordability/layout/amenities/location. Basically the most bang for the buck.
-Powerhouse
-Foundry
-City Lights
-1050 Jackson
-1063 Jackson
-Casa Vizcaya
-Gantry
-Galaxy
-One Hunters Point
-Hunters View

42.

#41 You are forgetting the best building in LIC. The Badge

43.

My bad. Please feel free to include any buildings I might of overlooked. Here is the current list I have. Now this is not in any particular order. What are your rankings

-Powerhouse
-Foundry
-City Lights
-1050 Jackson
-1063 Jackson
-Casa Vizcaya
-Gantry
-Galaxy
-One Hunters Point
-Hunters View
-Badge

44.

Citilights in the top 3? Put down the crack pipe. Citilights has worse furnishings than the projects going up in Queenswest will have and has to be the absolute worst investment in LIC. On top of this, the maintenance alone on the place is more money than the rent that people will pay in the projects. You are better off faking your income and sneaking into the projects.

The Gantry is not much better and is Citilights really ugly spaceship looking garage with problems with its plumbing (you know what overflowing the toilets the day after it opened) and had huge chunks of conrete falling off of it right after it was built. The owners will tell you that this was only a minor problem - yeah right lol. I guess I should take this a sign of quality construction.

Though these hunters point buildings are absolute garbage construction (look at how thin the concrete is and how quickly the buildings went up) they are at a higher level than Citilights and the Gantry which isn't saying much and buyer beware.

Badge is a great boutique building (Going after a similar look to Arris but not in the same class (which I am self confident enough to admit is the best building in LIC even though I can't afford to live there)) but effectively the majority of the appartments are already sold as is the case with Arris with only the huge $1 million + units left.

I've heard good things about the Foundry but as we all know not much has been released on it yet.

This leaves the Powerhouse as the most interesting buiding in LIC. The problem with it, aside from the specter of projects going up infront of it blocking its city views is that the $psqft vary greatly across the range of its appartments. This means that the reasonably priced units ($700-$$750 psqft) are going to go very quickly leaving only the more expensive units ($900- $1100) within a short period of time.

The bottom line is that there are high, medium and low quality apartments in LIC. The key is to get one of the high quality apartments for the $psqft range of $700. The opportunity to buy in places like Arris and to a lesser extent higher end boutique developments like Badge, Galaxy which were reasonably priced when they opened has passed. Your best bet is a place like the Powerhouse, but the affordably priced units are not going to be on the market long.

Lastly do not wait for Avalon or Rockrouse unless you are looking to pay $1100 -1200 psqft

Objective (Sorry if it hurts) LIC rankings:
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-Arris

-Powerhouse
-Badge
-Foundry

-Galaxy
-Casa Vizcaya

-Fusion
-5SL
-1050 Jackson
-1063 Jackson

-Crescent Club
-Queens Plaza
-View 59
-Echelon

-One Hunters Point
-Hunters View

-City Housing Projects

-Gantry
-City Lights

45.

44 - Objective analysis and how friggin true.

Liked the bit about Citilights and the Gantry below the projects - too funny.

All joking aside, you rankings are right on and well ballanced.

46.

I wouldnt even consider Arris part of LIC considering the hookers and seedy area on the edge of LIC. If you have to rank Arris, it has to be at the bottom. 44 must live in Arris because Arris is the joke of the community.

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#44: Spot on analysis--I'm an early 06 buyer and tracked every one of these, even after I bought. Very nicely done.

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44 = Arris troll that regrets his purchase at Arris.

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44 - Thank you for what is by far the most accurate post on LIC yet on Curbed and sums up the market quite nicely. Really excellent job.

50.

#44 is so regency, you stupid camel fucker, learn to write differently than every single one of your posts!

same shit from you over and over, you Osama Bin Laden wanna-be. only reason you bought in Arris is b/c your steaking out the 59th street bridge you american killing fuck!!!!

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50 Wow. I don't have a clue who Regency is but man you have some pent up aggresion and sound like a dumbass racist.

As for 44, if it is Regency or whoever else, they are 100% accurate in their assesment of the LIC market. I mean 100%. Best summary of the market that I have seen in a long time and I've checked out all the buildings in the area. Well done.

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44 = 45= 47 =49 = 51 = regency. Pathetic!

53.

#52 nailed it, so oblivious and he's so stupid he doesn't realize all his posts sound exactly the same.

54.

I'm poster #47 and I'm daf, not "regency". I'm a real person. I'm sorry, but you're off course here #52.

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I'm #47 and I'm daf, not "regency". I'm a real person. I'm sorry but you're off-course, #52.

56.

I'm not #54 and am not Regency either. And tell you what, I agree with everything that #44 says.

57.

54 = 55 = regency

58.

I am not 56, 55, 44, 51 or that Regency fellow. the location of Aris is not that bad. what is the big deal.

59.

"camel fuck?" "osama bin laden"? LoL! you're wrong on all accounts. That was not me posting #44, bitch! i'm not a camel fuck or whatever other racist shit you have stored up in that sad head of yours. Why dont you do us all a favor and slice your wrist. Better yet why dont you jump over the pier and take a deep breath under water. You're nothing more than a hating little insecure bitch that has nothing better to do than go online and make Arris the most talked about building in LIC. Keep up the free pluggs, people just laugh at your comments. Anyone that has been to Arris Lofts, knows very well that there are no hookers, (except when your mother comes and checks out the building) It's a great investment with an incredible amount of retail space in the sorrounding area for restaurants, cafe's and everything that a community needs. We even a a public Library in the city corp building. So shut your whore mouth. If you maybe excert the same energy that you do on promoting Arris Lofts, on yourself then maybe you would get up off that basement that you live in and do something about your situation. But you prefer to go on curbed and promote Arris, anyway keep doing what you're doing. It puts a smile to my face! It really does. BTW i just want to remind you that im not what you think i am. Camel toe whatever it is that you're spewing. I'm just a resident at Arris and you're not! You're probably not even a resident at LIC. HoLLA!

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Arris is horrible and everyone understands that except for regency who keeps defending his bad investment at Arris. LIC laughs at Arris and regency. Its over for Arris, the verdict is in.
57 = Arris troll

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59 Actually from reading this thread the verdict is that Arris is the hands down best building in LIC. I don't live there but I would tend to agree and like the others on this thread I have no clue who regency is.

It is pretty funny that people on Curbed come up with reasons to diss Arris from the phantom hookers that don't exist, to attributing any post that calls Citilights out for what it is (a development that saw its time pass away years ago)to this famous Regency, to now saying that Osama Bin Laden lives there.

Give it up guys. You are jealous and everyone knows it. Post #44 is 100% accurate, which is why so many people agree with it. I don't care if you say that the Easter Bunny lives in Citilights and Santa Claus lives in the Gantry, its not going to help you sell your apartment. Nor is it going to change the fact that you have a jealous obsession with Arris.

Even I can see that and I don't even live there or have a friggin clue who Regency is.

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sorrounding? is that a word?

and you're bragging about the library in the CitiCorp building? that place is never open and is smaller than your brain

63.

59 - wht thread are you ready cause the verdict on this one is that its the best building in LIC

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59, not to mention the hookers at Arris. Makes for a great place to raise a family.

65.

#8 - too funny - The Gantry? That building has had nothing but problems.

66.

Citilights will have scaffolding around it for another two years. It's been up since last September.

67.

1050 Jackson will have the fumes from the cars idling while waiting to get into the tunnel. AND then it also has the #7 running underneath. I think this will be the worst building in LIC.

68.

Citilights was a good deal when it first opened. However, it hasn't been a good deal for a long time now.

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68 You mean when there was no competition and the only building in the area. These days Citilights simply doesn't stack up. Between that and the crazy maintenance charges those living there are having such a tough time selling.

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68 = 69= regency. Arris sucks and all of LIC knows it.

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68 OP here - not regency but I do like the Arris building the best. However, I live on Vernon.

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71 = regency

73.

you guys are great!

badge > galaxy!
foundry > gantry!
ten63 > ohp!

lol.

i've been to galaxy. beautiful apartments and great finishing. badge is crap.

foundry prices havent been released yet. how can it be compared with gantry? i've been to the gantry and despite the funky exterior, the apts are great. oh they had a leaking toilet. stay away!

ten63 vs ohp. that's funny. 41 units, part time super, busiest junction in the neighborhood, and commercial downstairs! sweet. gimme lirr any day.

you guys should really take a walk around the neighborhood. get some friends in these places and check them out. the folks in that picture paid 610-620 psf for their apts. ohp may not be on the waterfront, but hey, u dont need 1.5 mm for a 2 br either.

74.

Why does every post telling the truth about citilights = Regency, who ever the F that is?

Its not like the comments that have been made about it so far are anythning that any of us don't know. Citilights is a 2nd tier building that passed its hayday more than a decade ago and isn't in the same league as newer developments. Enough said.

The fact that those that live there are dissing other buildings in the area and making up nonsesnse about Arris is pretty commical.

75.

74 : the only buidlnig being dissed is Arris, thats it. Arris is the only building LIC has a problem with. Other buildings are not dissed, just Arris. Enjoy your piss poor investment.

76.

74 = regency. Arris is the only bad investment in LIC. The people on this board tell the truth about Arris, not other buildings.. We love all the other projects , just not hooker infested Arris.

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74 - How true.

From the research that I've done as a potential buyer, post #44 is about as accurate as it gets. I would have bought in Arris but there aren't many appartments left so I am looking at the Powerhouse.

I wouldn't in a million years buy in Citilights, nor would I buy in the Gantry or One Hunters Point in a million years. The quality of construction looks that bad. Places like 5sl are a joke - 9 ft ceilings and they call the place a loft.

78.

One Hunters Point is the best deal, you can't beat those prices. I went to 10-63 and the smaller sq footage and higher maintenace was not appealing. I live near a LIRR station and take it everyday, there are no vibrations and the trains are not loud, they aren't old diesel trains...

79.

77 = regency, get a life

80.

75 - you do realize that you are getting aboslutely owned in this thread don't you? You are making yourself look like a complete assclown dissing Arris.

Your posts on Curbed are a joke and I neither have nothing to do with Regency or Arris, but am self confident enough to admit that is by far the best building in the area. And no there are neither hookers nor Osama Bin Laden in the building.

So stop with the played out jealousy bit already. It is played out.

81.

80 = hi regency! Sorry about your bad investment at Arris.

82.

You Arris folks crack me up. Why you have to respond to these jerks is beyond me. Why are you so compelled to defend your purchase. Maybe there is some truth to what the haters are saying. Food for thought.

83.

82 Not for nothing but I don't see anyone from Arris defending their purchase on this thread. They don't need to and are happy to be moving in to their new apartments in what is clearly the best building in LIC.

The people who are being defensive are the people who are having difficulty selling there apartments in Citilights who by the way were called out by people who don't even live in Arris including myself, who have no problems admitting that it is the best building, if you check the thread.

The arrogance and delusion of people in Citilights thinking that they run the neighborhood is pissing a lot of us off. Go ahead and pretend this is Regency if you want but it is not. You guys look like complete idiots for dissing other projects which are clearly better buildings.

Food for thought.

84.

damn. I don't know if that is Regency or not but CSK and Montewarden are getting pwned on this thread.

85.

Bottom line, CL residents contribute more to LIC than Arris- holes. What does Arris bring to the table, the answer is hookers and over-priced lofts.

86.

85 - Yeah CL residents are real ambassadors for the neighborhood, preventing businesses from opening on Vernon and giving a warm welcome to all those joining the neighboorhood with their insecurity particularly those at Arris. Please, the arrogance of you clowns at CL is commical particulaly since most of you are trying to desparately sell your places before you are out numbered on the waterfront by all the housing projects. Enjoy your own hookers, you know the real ones responsible for all the used condoms in Gantry State park. As you well know there are no hookers anywear near Arris, dumbass. Until then enjoy your crappy appartments and keep thinking that someone is actually buy them. hahaha

87.

Agreed. The only thing that CL contributes to LIC is bad architecture and 2nd rate apartments

88.

86-87 = regency. This is getting old.

89.

88 = A dellusional parinoid schizophrenic who sees Regency and hookers everywhere he turns and blames them for the fact that he can't sell his appartment - lol.

90.

89, Hi regency you idiot!

91.

Does anyone know how sales are going at One Hunters Point and Hunters View?

92.

91 better than at Citilights -lol Noone wants to buy there and apparently from the time they spend on the internet its obvious everyone there wants to live at Arris.

93.

Regency this Regency that! OBSSESION!!! that's have you have, LoL funny #89, could'nt find a better way to describe the fool! i #89 you already know what ANON=. BTW clean the stains off your nose, you're too much up my arse!

94.

Hey Regency

Can I get up your arse. You sound like one hot english guy.

Monte

95.

The "=" poster is a very angry person!

96.

as long as your madam doesn't mind, you're more than welcome to get in line!

97.

95 = regency, grow up

98.

I'm so glad people are finally bringing attention to the short-comings of Arris. They have finally been exposed and hopefully people will stay away from that place.

99.

Arris is a beautiful building, w/a doorman and concierge! Great porters and a superb super. Your negative posts just puts the stamp of approval on how great this building is. You love the building too, you just don't have the balls or the money to live here! Either way, i'll leave it up to you to post 100, and to prove my point that anything to do with LIC has Arris first in mind. Keep one thing in mind.....ANY NEWS is GOOD NEWS! NuFF SAiD!

100.

Hey Regency,

so if I hang around outside your building I might get a piece? Awesome. See you later!

Monte

101.

Monte,

Finally signing your posts?

102.

I have never, EVER, posted anonymously. Get a life anonymous fuck.

103.

Everybody is saying how smart 44 is, but after 43 wrote, "this is not in any particular order," 44 writes, "Citilights in the top 3? Put down the crack pipe."

43 never said CL was in the top 3.

104.

103 - Nor should it be in the top 3 or arguably within the top 10.

Not for nothing but #44 was pribably responding to #41.

105.

monti is a wanker!