Toll Brothers' Love Shifts from Williamsburg to LIC?

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ARRIS SUCKS!

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Grow up. No one cares about your negativity. Great article on the neighborhood. LIC Bashers will eat their words.

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ARRIS ROCKS!

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32 You just gave #1 what he-she wanted, a reaction.

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Another LIC building that puts Arris to shame.

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You're right. I shouldn't have reacted and will not anymore. It would be nice for the mature posters to be able to discuss the market in LIC.

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6, you are right, the market is good except for Arris. Arris is an investers nightmare. Mainly because of the hookers.

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Why all the LIC LUV this week?

Did the NYT wake you up or something? :)

Jake

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Shock. Contextually appropriate buildings (same sized lofts on a loft/warehouse block) outsell horribly out-of-place developments that have nothing to do wit the neighborhood their in (30+ floor waterfront tower in industrial Williamsburg.)

Shock!

SHOCK!

Perhaps Toll should take a look at why buildings like the Gretsch, the Mill, Sophia Lofts, the Smith Grey and the Esquire are doing exceptionally well....

10.

Hey! What happened to that sex advertisment building?

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Arris sucks, Citylights rocks!

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The best thing about Arris is that it comes great amenities like free hookers! It is awesome!

13.

Another LIC post gone Arris, need we say more? 9' ceilings does not equal lofts.

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13 = regency. C'mon man, you still can't see Arris is a dump. Arris is the joke of LIC. People continue to laugh at you. 5SL has location going for it. Arris has hookers. Its a no brainer.

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13, Of course its about Arris, hookers are a fun topic to discuss. Sorry about your purchase.

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can't people talk about THIS building??

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Seriously

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I like this building. It looks way better than most new developments.

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corner facing the avalon north is way too close to avalon, but what can you do?

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Toll Brothers took what is arguably the best location in Williamsburg, the North 8th St lot across from the new park and built the most boring building possible.

Had they built LARGE units with HIGH ceilings they would have sold for twice the price.

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anyone think the Toll Brother site in Long Island City looks like the One York Street building in Manhattan?

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No hookers here like at Arris. Seriously, why buy a loft at seedy Arris when you can buy here or Citylights.

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this psot is not about Arris or Citylights. We know that you want to annoy certain people whomever they or you are but there are others of us that would like to live in world of not trying to get under people's skin and actually learn something when reading these posts. How pathetic are some of you people that sit here, wasting yours and everyone else's time with your childish posts

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LIC revolves around Citylights, enough said. By the way, 23 lives in Arris. That explains it.

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I do not live in Arris. I actually looked at it and liked it but couldn't afford it and bought elsewhere in LIC at a great price. But, you are a complete loser. If you are not 13 or younger then i feel sorry for you. Actually, i don't feel sorry for you. I'm glad that you are this pathetic. Wouldn't want you to have a good life which you don't. Nor a good investment if you live at citylights.

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25, chill out man, your as bad as the haters. Why don't you stop whining that you couldnt afford to live at Arris.

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Not whining. I actually liked Arris but am much happier about my decision and thankfully was at the right place at the right time. What I am "whining" about is that there are people that like to read about LIC and real estate without having a bunch of babies argue about nonsense. The problem with sites like this is that people hide behind their computer screens and if were forced to disclose who they really were would not say 1/2 the things that they do. Much like yourself 22,24,26. If you enjoy getting uder people's skin for fun, well then go for it but what are you really accomplishing? I'm sure you were a geek and loser in high school and nothing has changed. The internet has saved you from having NO social life but has given you this new made up one that you live through.

28.

I'm glad your not a Arris, you are a pathetic man. You are wound up tighter than anyone on this board. It sounds like you are bitter you could not get into Arris. Enjoy your 2'nd or 3'rd tier condo, ha ha.

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Yet another thread on LIC hijacked by those jealous of Arris. You guys are obsessed.

In case you missed it, here are some quotes from the Sun Article that Curbed started this thread off of:

"More than 35 units have been sold for more than $1 million and a few have traded for $2 million — possibly the highest price ever achieved for a condominium apartment in Long Island City."

Thanks for all the free press that you have given Arris. And for a second you thought that people were dumb enough to believe all that nonsense about hookers in sections of LIC other than Gantry State Park.

"This was the first time in Long Island City that a real, full-service ... with all the bells and whistles had been developed in the neighborhood,"

Thats funny, weren't you arguing yesterday that Citylights was a full service building and even had tennis classes. I guess the rest of the world doesn't see it that way.

Keep on bitching there are a few more units for sale at Arris.

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You know when I moved to the neighborhood I didn't think too much about City Lights. I personally wouldn't want to live there but hey for each his own. That being said, to read the posts of its residents on Curbed is appauling. You should be ashamed about the stuff that you are posting about Arris. You are like a bunch of jealous little children. Do us all a favor and shut up.

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29 - there are a lot more units than a few going for sale at shittylights. Problem is no one is buying and the stuff that is coming to light about that building isn't going to help.

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Not wound up tight at all and actually very laid back but don't take well to immaturity, especially when I'm trying to educate myself on this board. Obviously, you rent and can't afford to buy which is fine if you didn't come on this board making others feel bad about their investment. As I said, I did not buy there but those Arris buyers don't need you berating their purchase. And I will enjoy my 2nd/3rd tier condo and enjoy living in this great area while you continue to live in your parent's house.

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I live at Arris and I think 32 is a whiner. I'm glad his ass is not at Arris. Sounds like a big baby wishing he made more money. And for the record, CityLights is horrible.

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I actually make 300K per year but needed 3 bedrooms as I work from home. There is no way that you are at Arris..Loser..

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Why is everyone associating hookers as a bad thing. It is an added benefit. Arris rocks!

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300k a year and bickering on this board. Real mature and professional.

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I was trying to stop the immaturity if you read back and money doesn't equate to maturity or professionalism. Maybe I'm Ron Artest

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I'm a soon-to-be new resident of LIC and these kind of comments anytime there's an LIC article anywhere make me embarrassed to be part of the community. It sounds like all we are is whiners and haters and that is not the case at all.

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You are right Daf. We are not that and I'm sorry if I came across that way to you. Most of the haters cannot be residents of any building because we should want every building and business in the area to prosper.

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39 is a tool. Get out of LIC!

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There you go again. Keep renting loser

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41, why do you look down upon people that rent. Very elitist of you asshole. You are as bad as they are. People like you are such a great asset to LIC. Jerk.

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After watching the 2 of you go back and forth all afternoon, I have to say that Michael should just ignore this guy who is obviously trying to antagonize everyone on this board and Anonymous should grow up and leave this board.

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Not looking down on people that rent. It should come across that way. I feel that many renters come on boards like this and bash new areas like LIC in order to scare prospective buyers from buying and thus keeping supply up to eventually bring prices down for them. This was an individual case and not meant to say anything about renters or those in a financial situation to not be able to buy.

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On a different note, I would buy at 5sl instead of Arris. This is a greeat building that has alot to offer. Not to mention, regency is at Arris.

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300k a year and he thinks he is a big shot! In his own little world maybe he is, but if he can't compete with the big dogs at Arris, he should shut his trap.

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46 = regency

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Lame. You're really going to be vulgar enough to post your $300k salary in a place like NY, where dogs (literally) are worth more than you, condescend against renters, and call other people losers?

I drove by Arris this weekend trying to find the impound lot. When I saw the exterior, I realized why everyone thinks Arris is so crappy. Nothing about the exterior compelled me to want to check out the interior, ever, not even in passing curiosity.

And wtf, NYTP must make a killing towing people. It looked like they were shooting fish in a bucket. The tow trucks were bringing in a constant stream of cars. Unbelievable.

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Michael,

Welcome to the neighborhood. I guess you are learning what the rest of us learned a long time ago about the arrogant citilights crowd. They are a bunch of jealous children. They also wish that they made your salary.

Afterall, if they did the monthly maintenance costs at City lights wouldn't be so high or better yet they could actually purchase at Arris instead of spending 24/7 bitching at those they envy so much.

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48 Dogs aren't worth more than people but people in Citilights are bitches.

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#49 hi regency

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#51 Jeez not only are you obssesed with Arris but you are obsessed with Regency as well.

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I just stumbled on this thread. It is a complete joke. Comparing citilights to Arris is like comparing JC Penny to Armani. Give me a break. There is a place for both and no need to bash each other.

That being said the people who wearing JC Penny arguing that it is just as good as Armani aka arguing City Lights is a luxury building is pretty funny shit.

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who is Regency?

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I live at Arris and I don't friggin believe it. I've been living there for months and haven't seen a single hooker despite all of these claims from CL folks and guess what.

I look out the window last night and I see what must be twenty scantly clad women. I mean hard core hookers. So I go out side and ask what's going on and one of them turns to me and says:

"Relax sugar. We are late for work and are just looking for the bus to Gantry State Park."

I replied: "Thanks but can you do me a favor and pick up the used condoms after you are done. The residents of CL are getting pretty pissed that there property values are dropping so fast"

So there you have it, the answer to the mystery of all those hookers spotted. So now that we have clarified that and I have done what I can to adress the problem of used condoms for my firends at CL, can you please stop making up nasty rumors about Arris. There is no reason to be jealous.

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#55 you're getting a little bit more creative regency, you moron, but it's still so you.

tired tired tired, like the poor camel that you fuck every night

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#55 - Thanks for confronting the hookers about the used condoms at Gantry State Park which are a real problem.

We need more people like you in LIC who are focused on solving real problems in the neighborhood instead citlights residents obsessed with Arris and Regency who spend their time fabricating rumors and making up negative stuff about other buildings in the neighborhood.

We've had enough.

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#55 Amazing that this is the first time that you've seen hookers on the way to Gantry State Park. Its pretty well known around LIC that the "ho train" express goes straight to Gantry State Park. Its a dirty little secret that Citylights residents don't want to disclose when they are selling their apartments but everyone knows about it.

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58 - I don't believe you. Its completely preposterous that anyone in City Lights has actually been able to sell their appartment in that dump.

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Is LIC safe?

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Are there any buildings not requiring ten percent down?

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Are their people trying to sell there condos? I haven't seen one resale yet?