Glassy New Fourth Ave. G-Slope Tower Revealed


Friday, October 12, 2007, by Robert

2007_10_FourthAveEighthCrop2.jpgThe Gowanus side of Park Slope-Gowanus DMZ known as Fourth Avenue is about to get a serious, serious dose of glass. The tipster who hit us off with the renderings of this building that will be going up at Fourth Avenue and Eighth Street offers that it "looks a lot better than some of the other crap on 4th ave." The building, which our tipster says is designed by DJ Associates, is destined for a site that was the subject of a Rumblings item a few weeks ago. It will be a 12-story building with about 50,000 square feet. It's a definite departure from some of the brick-heavy buildings that will be its nearby neighbors.
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1.

No thanks. But, if others want to live in that, they are welcome. Not a big fan of windows extending from floor to ceiling. From 3' from floor to ceiling is perfect for me.

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 12:15 PM

2.

Great...soon we'll be able to compare whether Brooklynites are sloppier than Manhattanites (think 110 Third).

By Hugo at October 12, 2007 12:18 PM

3.

wow, what city is this with the nice clean streets and the perfect trees and no people and nothing else nearby..especially not an elevated highway or train tracks or anything like that

By wow at October 12, 2007 12:20 PM

4.

I like the hot tubs! Get me some bitches in there and watch the titties fly!!!

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 12:21 PM

5.

The ceiling heights seem low. My guess is 8'. If I stand on my tiptoes I could probably touch the ceiling.

Why oh why do developers build such low height ceilings? Nevermind, I know the answer. FAR! Arrgh!

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 12:27 PM

6.

this looks like a big step up from boymelcrap. notice no ugly vents so probably has central air. nice!

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 12:36 PM

7.

ahahah - FARrrgggh! i love it #5!

By bay ridge midge at October 12, 2007 12:36 PM

8.

ceilings will be at least 9'. do the math. 120' total and 12 stories. Floors are usually 10" to 12" which leaves at least 9'. are the roof decks private or common?

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 12:42 PM

9.

ceilings will be at least 9'. Do the math-120' tall 12 stories. Floors are usually between 10" and 12" thick which leaves at least 9'. are the roof decks private or common?

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 12:44 PM

10.

Fast Foward to 2008!

Haters, renters, competitors, and brokers, anon shill posts coming soon...

"I hear the floors are buckling!"

"I went the the open house the line was around the block and the place was BUZZING with buyers, they actually ran out of space in the sign-in book..."

"I hear it's 85% sold already"

"I just did a walk-through and the kitchen & bathrooms are top of the line"

"...PRICE-CHOP ALERT...."

"thanks to GowANUS Lounge for taking time out from filming the slime oozing on the canal to post these pictures of the Sub-Zero fridge deliveries.."

"Thanks to a Curbed tipster / photoblogger from the Slope, we have confirmation of FreshDirect truck making deliveries..."

"...PRICE-CHOP ALERT...."

"look at this picture...people are hangout out on the balconies...how cool is that!!!"

"frequent contributor 'the dogshit queen of greenpoint' has found a turd on the corner of 4th ave&8th street....hi-res close-up shots will be uploaded to the server soon"

"...here comes the flippers... - insert link to corcoran listing here - comments to include rating the bangability of the broker..."

"...PRICE-CHOP ALERT...."


By dont believe da hypeness at October 12, 2007 12:51 PM

11.

Another anti-urban building that doesn't relate to the street & pedestrian at ground level at all. No space for retail. It's fitting that the rendering makes it look like it's going up in a Walmart parking lot in Passaic, because that's where it belongs.

By Oldmark at October 12, 2007 12:53 PM

12.

These renderings are a little confusing. Does the building front on 4th Ave or 8th Street?

By fred at October 12, 2007 12:56 PM

13.

As someone who lives in the area, all I have to say is thank God. Like this or not, this is light years beyond the crap being along 4th Ave. Imagine, actually considering design!

And #5, what does FAR have to do with ceiling height? FAR dictates square footage (the amount of floor area), not cubic footage (the volume of the building). If buildings are being designed with low ceilings, it's because it's cheaper.

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 1:07 PM

14.

I think it looks great. You naysayers are nuts. Anti-urban? I doubt that.

By BB at October 12, 2007 1:19 PM

15.

I agree this is a better design than a lot of crap that springs up in Brooklyn but damn, pour some dye in that concrete mix. Any color pigment instead of the grey default.

FYI. 9 feet ceilings are still pathetic. A very large pool of people won't even consider buying this due to the low (or as you imply average) floor to ceiling height.

Dosen't FAR also dicate how tall a building can be? If so, then FAR has a lot to do with low ceiling heights. E.g. a planned 10 story building with 10 feet ceilings could be a 11 story building with 9 feet ceilings without changing the height of the building.

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 1:25 PM

16.

If you look closely, from the overhead perspective, the car on the street with what seems to be a grass median, is going the wrong way. Makes you wonder if there is an identical building in the UK somewhere and the renderings were just shifted to this side of the pond. This also would explain no street names or north arrows. Truly a world building.

By Post-BKLYN at October 12, 2007 1:31 PM

17.

More likely it has to do with the fact that that thing was probably rendered in Korea or elsewhere in Asia and they didn't give a crap what side they put the car on. They also weren't budgeted enough to add the other surrounding buildings or the other details metioned.

Anyway, I still agree that it's better than the Boymelgreen crap going up.

And in my opinion the apparently low ceiling heights are appropriate for a space with so much glass. It gives a sense of refuge rather than the feeling of floating in space.

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 1:44 PM

18.

Yay, another shiny hipster incubator. FUCK!

www.diehipster.com

By diehipster at October 12, 2007 1:48 PM

19.

What's great is you can pay a few hoodrats like 20 bucks or give them a bag of weed and they'll bombard the place with rocks.


www.diehipster.com

By Rock Thrower at October 12, 2007 1:53 PM

20.

AS IF the building will look anything like this fantasy rendering if/when it goes up.

AS IF anybody is going to want to sit on a glass terrace overlooking 4th avenue.

By as if at October 12, 2007 2:23 PM

21.

this looks much better than anything else on 4th (see mental institiution called NOVO). At least it has some outdoor space. If the builder is spending the $$$ on an expensive curtain wall it figures to be very high end. hope it is contagious.

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 2:46 PM

22.

#21 i agree with you. everyone complains about the lack of any architectural thought in crest/novo etc and i think this looks nice

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 3:00 PM

23.

better than being across the street from pepboys and close to the train. are they selling yet?

By apthuntrbklyn at October 12, 2007 3:18 PM

24.

There goes my tendency to walk around naked on a hot & humid summer day. Yes, I guess I am shy...

By Josh@TimesSquare at October 12, 2007 3:36 PM

25.

Awesome! Another glass high-rise. NY is the new Poland.

By Mary at October 12, 2007 4:11 PM

26.

That rendering looks so much like the real place, it's downright spooky. Check it out:

- http://tinyurl.com/22tw97

By statler at October 12, 2007 5:33 PM

27.

is that a bbq on the roof deck? very nice

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 5:42 PM

28.

#15

FAR has nothing to do with how tall a building can be. In fact, building height was never even a factor in NYC zoning until the recent introduction of "contextual zoning" which does prescribe a height limit. If you have a 1000 square foot lot and the FAR is 4, this means that you can only build 4000 square feet, but how you use this is up to you. You could build four floors at 1000 square feet per floor or 20 floors at 200 square feet per floor.

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 6:23 PM

29.

@28

Thanks for the info. Now I know and hopefully you're correct. Been told otherwise regarding FAR but your explanation makes sense.

I guess I should vent my frustration at contextual zoning for developers making so many low ceiling buildings.

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 7:06 PM

30.

if only all the new buildings that will inevitably be built on 4th look as nice as this, that would go a long way towards making it a real residential block. All new construction in brooklyn doesnt have to look like a project or a jail. I just hope the developer doesnt cheap out and build something that looks like a scarano or radisky special (see vue, novo, crest, 126 4th etc)

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 8:52 PM

31.

What stinkin 30 foot required light and air provision?

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 9:41 PM

32.

# 31 -looks like its getting at least 30 ft on the right side by that garden. i dont think the provision specifies rear or front.

By Anonymous at October 12, 2007 9:50 PM

33.

nice building in a shit neighborhood

By Beyonce at October 12, 2007 10:05 PM

34.

#5, dont listen to these dum dums. There is probably a building height ordinance. The developer then has to cram as many floors as possible below that height limit, and reach or approximate the allowable FAR square footage.

By Anonymous at October 13, 2007 12:19 AM

35.

#5 & #34

there is a height limit on 4th ave of 120 ft. since they rezoned a couple of years ago. If the building is made of concrete, there should be a clear ceiling height of at least 9'3" which is not too shabby at all. It would be a few inches lower if it is a steel building but I doubt that because it looks like an expensive design. seems like it belongs in manhattan somewhere not on the DMZ but i guess time will tell

By daslope at October 13, 2007 1:22 AM

36.

#35, I agree, it's a very nice design. After reading countless posts from ppl deriding nice looking buildings in this blog, I start to wonder if I'm the one with bad taste...

By Anonymous at October 15, 2007 12:41 AM

37.

anyone know if they are selling yet? was considering a unit at crest but i like this design much better. knowing boymelgreen;s track record, this will probably be done before crest anyways. is there parking in the building?

By Anonymous at October 16, 2007 2:54 PM

38.

2:54, i was looking at the Heritage, Novo, Crest. Heritage is projeted to start closing 1st quarter next year, Novo in Jan and Crest in Dec, according to the respective salespeople that is. I think the Novo TCO is contingent on them fixing the park that they used as staging for construction first, so that is iffy. Crest and Heritage seem to be on track though.

By anon at October 16, 2007 3:18 PM

39.

You're darn right #35. This building does belong in Manhattan. I just hope other developers follow suit and Brooklyns' skyline may just be "a place to look at." I looked up DJ Associates. Looks like another hot shot architect based in the financial district.

By The neighbor at October 21, 2007 12:51 AM




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